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    Rye Cove rule should be repealed

    Let's start some discussion on this. Should Clintwood be allowed to play in D1?

    The rule was made because of Lee High's AA numbers when they first dropped to A. They've lost a lot of enrollment since dropping, and let's call it like it is, Lee High has not been a factor in Region D football other than allowing Clintwood and Haysi to drop the past few years. If Lee High was a force that didn't allow those two teams to compete in D2 it would be different, but Lee has had no impact on the D2 playoffs whatsoever.

    So why should Region D even have this rule?

    Clintwood could compete just as well in D2 in this half of the state.

    Nobody will ever win another D1 State Championship as long as they allow those gaudy numbers in Region B. If Burton's and Clintwood's teams of the past 5 years can't bring back at least one gold trophy, then it's not going to get done because the talent level in D1 is dropping fast IMO.

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    Re: Rye Cove rule should be repealed

    I thought the rule was brought about in 03-04, somewhere around there, years before Lee High dropped?

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    Re: Rye Cove rule should be repealed

    Quote Originally Posted by beamer_ball View Post
    I thought the rule was brought about in 03-04, somewhere around there, years before Lee High dropped?
    You're probably right, but Lee High coming in is what allowed Clintwood to drop. No offense to Clintwood, but none of the little guys in the region can compete against a football school like Clintwood, and wasn't that the intent of the rule?

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    Re: Rye Cove rule should be repealed

    How about this?

    All the teams in the Lonesome Pine, Black Diamond, and Cumberland should be D1.

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    Re: Rye Cove rule should be repealed

    More teams than just Lee High have allowed Clintwood, Castlewood, Coeburn, Haysi, etc. to drop over the years. And still yet, as brought up before, Clintwood/Haysi this year are still only midpack enrollment wise in the divisioin in the state.

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    Re: Rye Cove rule should be repealed

    Quote Originally Posted by joe morgan View Post
    Let's start some discussion on this. Should Clintwood be allowed to play in D1?

    The rule was made because of Lee High's AA numbers when they first dropped to A. They've lost a lot of enrollment since dropping, and let's call it like it is, Lee High has not been a factor in Region D football other than allowing Clintwood and Haysi to drop the past few years. If Lee High was a force that didn't allow those two teams to compete in D2 it would be different, but Lee has had no impact on the D2 playoffs whatsoever.

    So why should Region D even have this rule?

    Clintwood could compete just as well in D2 in this half of the state.

    Nobody will ever win another D1 State Championship as long as they allow those gaudy numbers in Region B. If Burton's and Clintwood's teams of the past 5 years can't bring back at least one gold trophy, then it's not going to get done because the talent level in D1 is dropping fast IMO.
    Beamer is right, the rule was made well before Lee dropped down. And if the area is having trouble competing the way things are now, how would moving larger D1 schools into D2 help the area. As long as the rest of the regions are sporting the numbers they do at D1, it will be tough for our area to compete.
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    Re: Rye Cove rule should be repealed

    Why do they not allow teams to drop in basketball, but they do in football?

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    Re: Rye Cove rule should be repealed

    Quote Originally Posted by joe morgan View Post
    You're probably right, but Lee High coming in is what allowed Clintwood to drop. No offense to Clintwood, but none of the little guys in the region can compete against a football school like Clintwood, and wasn't that the intent of the rule?
    In 07 Clintwood could drop becouse of Lee or VHS

    In 09 Lee, VHS and GC all were 2X the size of Clintwood

    I will say that the best solution to this issue would be for the state to go to a 5 or 6 A system (equil 6ths)with mixed districts and not alow playing up or down

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    Re: Rye Cove rule should be repealed

    Quote Originally Posted by royalflush View Post
    Why do they not allow teams to drop in basketball, but they do in football?
    Only reasons I have heard are #1 the other sports are not as affected by numbers (football teams are 40+ basketball are around 12) I am not sure I agree with that statment 100% the 2nd is that it would screw up there Regional Turnaments and at this point no one has come up with a good solution for that issue

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    Re: Rye Cove rule should be repealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Counts View Post
    In 07 Clintwood could drop becouse of Lee or VHS

    In 09 Lee, VHS and GC all were 2X the size of Clintwood

    I will say that the best solution to this issue would be for the state to go to a 5 or 6 A system (equil 6ths)with mixed districts and not alow playing up or down
    Bingo. In a couple years their enrollment will more than likely drop below 300 for the first time in God knows how long.
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